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#1 User is offline   Meeja Isara 

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 05:33 PM

What would you say is the ideal song? And no, don't go saying 'a love song' because A. that's not what this topic is about and B. love songs are utter bull...

What MAKES a song ideal? Make a list with all the components that you believe makes a song the perfect song. Also, talk about your ideas as well and give some examples of them of how they are being used today. Do you believe that any artist will ever release a song that you will find ideal?

Here's a list of what I think the ideal song should be made up on:

1. NO RHYMING

A song is automatically on my 'hate list' when I can guess what they are going to say...Songs don't have to rhyme. Rhyming shows lazyness and stupidity. And rhyming 'Night' with 'Tonight' does not count as two seperate words.

2. Proper use of terms

I hate these new dual-meaning words. A word means by what is stated in a dictionary! This also means proper use of the words 'Boy' 'Girl' and 'Baby/Babe'. A BABY/BABE is a small infant. GIRl is a young female and BOY is a young male, age 12 and under. So really, a lot of songs sound like they were written by pedophiles...

3. Speak Clearly and Pronounce words correctly

There are some songs that are nothing but gibberish and now and then the singer throws in an actual word to make it sounds like what he/she is saying is English. Also, what is with singers and not pronouncing words correctly? The word is 'YOU' not 'CHU'. And 'Wanna' and 'Gonna' are not words.

4. No repeating of words.

It's called a Thesaurus...use it.

5. No RAP

You do know what rap ACTUALLY stands for don't you?

And on a side note, no song should include fake music such as a clapper, no talking (you're singing) and no abnormal voices (use your voice). Also, no songs PERIOD that feature other singers, or parts from another song...and no remixes.

And this is why I only listen to J-POP. Only I am capable of writing lyrics that I find ideal.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:45 AM

It's hard for these days for any singer to sing an ideal song, especially that people these days like how singing is these days, but anyway an ideal song for me should have the following:
First, no swearing: there is truly no need to use a swear word in a song, why would anyone say f*** in a song, what significance it holds.
Second, rhyming: I like rhyming it gives a certain music for the words, when used properly, but I should say it shouldn't be like the example Meeja gave, because that would be stupid. Tolkein's The Hobbit is filled with good rhyming, if anyone wants to learn how to do so.
Third. proper use of words: This point is explained enough by Meeja, there is no need to repeat it.
Fourth, pronounce words correctly: Also explained by Meeja.
Fifth, the song should have a meaning, a story to tell: A song about love, I have no problem with, but it's repetitve, they all seem the same(his love left him, her lover betrayed her, etc...)
Sixth, repetition of both the music and the words: This will make the song extremely dull.

And I also share the views of Meeja about fake music and the other things she mentioned and about RAP, I actually don't listen to it and do not understand what they say in the first place, and when it happens I find the words just disgusting.

I don't actually listen to songs that much except that if I heard one that have some kind of story or good choice of words, then I would listen so that I thoroughly understand the words and the story. I personally prefer music with no singing, sometimes they hold meaning than words, especially when you attach them with memories and concepts.
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 11:27 PM

I think its realy hard for eny song writer to make a song that fits EVERY ONES ideal song list. Simply because everyone has a different list. the only way for the song to be ideal to every ones taste is if every one has the same taste. We all know that ant gona happen.

I myself agree that a big thing is to understand wats being said. wats the point of lissing to a loud blure of noise.

I love songs i can relate to, but i wont just box myself out of song that i cant relate with.

I love a good beet something that u cant but help but tap ur feet to.

I to enjoy a bit of rhyme, it some how to me tyes each line together. Then u end up with a song not a bunch of lines.

I love cachy songs but not to the point that ur trying to work and the tune is running through ur head.

I hate swearing in songs it just not need

But my bigest no no is constant repetition saying like three lines over and over and over grrrrrr.its just saying the wrighter couldnt think of eny thing decent to wright and is to lazy to work eny further on the lyricks.


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Posted 13 March 2008 - 06:18 AM

There is no such thing as "The Perfect Song" too many preferences and ideals.
Furthermore "my" ideal music would be that which doesn't contain swearing, swearing simply shows how incapable they are of finding words to convey their thoughts or emotions.

No screamo, I don't need to listen to a person screaming his music to emphasize his point, its unnecessary and gives me a headache. No need to point out that they can't sing or construct a song correctly that they need to overcompensate by screaming.

Use complete sentences or phrases, jumping from one point to another gets old fast.

Slang and or rap is a no-no. I like to hear rhythm in my songs, NOT give me the dope beats and singing about how much money you have, how many women you have had, how many women you will have, how many drugs you use to sell, how much drugs you do and how above the law you are. Nope life is too short, I could care less.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 10:43 PM

Music can become important in more respects than only listening...
So could the characteristics be assigned differently...
However perhaps focuse from the side of listening would be enough to analyse...

Lack of the features which would make a perfect song for me wouldn't prevent me from listening to the other ones.
The songs are of different kinds and so their means to achieve a particular result are different. Curses when not used as a hammer (especially when it is given to hands such as child's to use it), but occassionaly when united with the meaning of the whole verse instead as being treated singularly as one's manners can be an act of an art.
(On the side note: curses are simply one of the more direct means to get to the person and successfully reflect the emotion, whereas even the most accurate description doesn't obtain the same outcome in an instant. The other thing is that songs and one's ears happen to suffer of its midless surpluss or lack of reason reflected in the song for using it)
The truth is that it happens extremely rarely, so the effect is rather repulsive than attracting.
Rhythm is a decent and nifty frame of a song. Naomi described this relationship in a pretty precise way. Whether it is welcomed, endurable or not though, has similar conditions like in the case of cursing. It is recognisable when the rhythm was imposed on a song by force or whether one scrupulously thought over the meaning they wished to convey.
This is the end in the matter of additions which have two sides in which one is able to discourage one from the listening to the song or the other which I simply don't mind.

Nevertheless, there are some components which regardless of the genre of music are valuable in my sense of appreciation (and as a matter of fact remind one the basic function of the ears):

* content: first and foremost. Both the subject of the song, the original yet accurate use of the
words revealing that one has truly meant thus experienced (for instance within the moment
the idea for the song was born) the feelings they denote. There certainly couldn't be
categorised into this experiences humiliating a person as a human being.
~Not only words are tools to be used but music definitely as well. Perhaps I should place it before the
means the words are, however it is not obvious that music first underestimated will not create a nice
whole together with the words in the end.
~Both needs to influence, wake imagination, to make me experience. To arise feelings.
Especially those which make one feel their mind has no limits.
The song doesn't need nothing more if it is able to achieve such result every time it is listened to.
(Such effect will not take place if the author shows their whole knowledge about feature as repetition).
* variety: it is a great pleasure to have to do with various description of the same thing. Whether it is
the variety in the words or music tons. In fact the second case is much more noticeable and somehow
more appreciated.
* lenght: I do prefer when the joy of listening to a valuable song lasts inastead of being taken away at
by the premature end.
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