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Posted 06 April 2009 - 09:34 PM

In one of debates, my interlocutor touched the subject of abstraction.

A position he took was: why to mantain association of achievements with someone who already died. He questioned the very sense of paying attention to the names of "originators", for whom it doesn't mean anything any more.
What is the sense in remembering names since it no longer brings any benefits to them?
Achievement is what counts for mankind since sooner or later there would always be someone who would be the first to do it.
May I point this person had little recognition for abstract matters in general...

Do you also think that caring for keeping connections between mere names and creations is useless and according to the above rule of continuity in discovery - groundless?
What other meaning can have such abstract matters like respect, than only bringing mundane benefits?
Do you personally pay any attention to them in situations other than when in the face of possible gains?
Why such an attitude, how much can it mean...
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Posted 12 April 2009 - 03:38 PM

I don't think it's a matter how much does it give for them, but for us the ones who respect them, because this stand in itself brings respect to those who take it. We are always connected to our history to our ancestors, we would give them a lot of benifits if it was possible, but it isn't. It's like one's parents we tend to give them credit for who became and what we accomplished even after they die, if do not appreciate them we would be unfaithful, and our loyalty would be in question. A branch can be traced back to it's roots and it is there because roots are there, and when a branch falls from the tree and no longer it is connected to it, it is then dead.
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Posted 03 May 2009 - 10:04 PM

I think its an interesting debate topic...

I don't think my response is the most adequate, but I suppose it'll do. :D

The benefit is that the fact the originators were the first and will always be first. Not mentioning their name in the book of history is like... well, copyright infringement. The cool thing about choosing or not choosing to pay homage or respect to a said person or group of people, is that they still achieve something. Their benefit lies within the achievement, not within the effects of the achievement (in a general sense).

I still think that you could make a dissertation for a P.H.D. out of this, or at least part of it. ^_^
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 07:04 PM

Feel free... ;)
Both you and Modi gave the matter new sense looking at it from different angles.
And after all, limits of the post's length still remains an interesting aspect...
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